Pakistan plane crashes near Islamabad airport

Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:15 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17788698
A plane carrying 127 people has crashed in a residential area near Islamabad international airport.
Aviation officials said the Bhoja Air jet, flight BHO-213, was flying from Karachi to Islamabad when it came down in bad weather minutes from landing.
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There are no reports of survivors. Rescue teams have been working in darkness to try to assess if there are any casualties on the ground.
Condolences to the families of those involved. At least, they died fast.

Re: Pakistan plane crashes near Islamabad airport

Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:28 pm

GSlob wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17788698
A plane carrying 127 people has crashed in a residential area near Islamabad international airport.
Aviation officials said the Bhoja Air jet, flight BHO-213, was flying from Karachi to Islamabad when it came down in bad weather minutes from landing.
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There are no reports of survivors. Rescue teams have been working in darkness to try to assess if there are any casualties on the ground.
Condolences to the families of those involved. At least, they died fast.

The pilots probably died before the passangers.

Re: Pakistan plane crashes near Islamabad airport

Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:34 am

Another Jurassic 737-200, those birds were old when they left the US airlines 10 years ago...

Re: Pakistan plane crashes near Islamabad airport

Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:42 am

Dr. Lao wrote:Another Jurassic 737-200, those birds were old when they left the US airlines 10 years ago...
With the proper upkeep, even the much more jurassic B52s are flying OK. I would be looking into the maintenance, the local weather, and the pilot errors.

Re: Pakistan plane crashes near Islamabad airport

Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:49 am

GSlob wrote:
Dr. Lao wrote:Another Jurassic 737-200, those birds were old when they left the US airlines 10 years ago...
With the proper upkeep, even the much more jurassic B52s are flying OK. I would be looking into the maintenance, the local weather, and the pilot errors.


Agreed!

(Thread drift warning)

Eventually metal fatigue stresses on airframes will make a plane un-flyable/un-safe. I used to hop rides in 50-year-old Super-Constellations until one of them all by itself (no crew on board) just collapsed under its own weight on a tarmac and blew up. Passenger jets are no different - the constant recycling of the pressure on the fuselage will ultimately reach a maximum design life (~75,000 cycles). Since the 727-200 is a short hop bird, it could reach EOL far sooner than a long haul AC such as a USAF B-52 even though the B-52 flies far higher or may be much older. The Aloha Flight 243 incident is a perfect example of what can happen when an AC reaches its design life limits.

P.s. Not even a tidily-bit implying this is the cause of the crash. Just talking design life of commercial AC from the above thread drift. And I would put money on the table that these parameters were tracked by the airline and the jet well within spec.

My condolences to the families as well.

Re: Pakistan plane crashes near Islamabad airport

Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:57 am

GSlob wrote:
Dr. Lao wrote:Another Jurassic 737-200, those birds were old when they left the US airlines 10 years ago...
With the proper upkeep, even the much more jurassic B52s are flying OK. I would be looking into the maintenance, the local weather, and the pilot errors.



B 52's don't have 30,000 plus cycles at 4-7 flights a day, pressurizing and depressurizing each time.

Plus, dodgy carriers with poor navigation = crashes.

And, in the last few years, I've flown in 55 year old DC 3's and 50 year old 707's...

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