Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:12 am
doc30 wrote:And that the health care sector is the only sector of the economy not currently in collapse. Methinks the dems want to correct that problem.
Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:18 am
That no Republican can seem to manage to articulate the righteous indignation & outrage this utter incompetence deserves is equally disturbing.
Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:24 am
Nilla wrote:Maybe you should consider running for office Zoneball.
Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:32 am
Central Archivist wrote:ffighter wrote:Barney should be first in line then, followed closely By Dodd.
Took the words right out of my keyboard.
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Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:34 am
Thoro wrote:I hope this comes back to bite him on his fat ass. I want to see someone he thinks is a wrongdoer turn it completely around on him and implicate Frank. Of course, part of the reason Fudd's doing this is to cover hisincompetentincontinent ass.
Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:39 am
Elmo Zoneball wrote:ml1954 wrote:Shryke wrote:Perhaps you also missed Geitner's comments regarding green fucking energy?
I heard a bit about that. Like with corporate taxes, my reaction was... WTF is he concerned with and talking about that right now? Isn't he supposed to be working on a plan to fix this economic crisis? Hasn't he been working on this for six months? Why doesn't he have a plan by now, any plan, good or bad? Why is he spending time on this relatively low priority BS?
It looks like Obama/marxist style Laissez-faire. Blame it all on the evil excesses of capitalism, let the market sort out the economic crisis, if it can, don't bother to try to help while claiming you are, and in the meantime take the opportunity to advance a socialist agenda as much as possible, not caring about how it might affect the economic crisis caused by that evil capitalist economy.
As good a place as any to drop in my rant du jour:
I no longer labor under any illusion that this administration has any intention of solving the economic crisis, nor has it the competence were it its objective.
The economic illness afflicting not only the US but the world revolves around the collapse of the housing bubble and the related credit crisis that was virtually assured by the Sarbanes-Oxley mark-to-market rule, as enforced through FASB 157 adopted in 2007, virtually guaranteeing a death spiral in asset values of mortgage-backed-securities and their derivative financial instruments once the housing bubble popped. So long as these assets are forced to virtually zero value -- despite the fact that 88% of all mortgages continue to be paid on time, and 92% of working Americans still have jobs -- a significant portion of the financial system is in dire straights, unable to borrow/lend, and the continued crisis in credit is the logjam that prevents meaningful recovery to commence.
As has been noted elsewhere, the latest mortgage "cram down" measure not only won't fix the problem, it will materially exacerbate further long term deterioration in the housing market values as the interest rates are forced higher, and the number of qualifying borrowers dwindle.
Adding further insult to injury is this administration's obsession with shit-that-does-not-matterâ„¢, whilst doing nothing productive to unfuck the credit/banking system. Examples abound:
Yesterday, Treasury Sec'y Geithner announce the administration's proposals to eliminate all tax credits/reductions for the oil industry, on the grounds that its product contributed to "global warming." Putting aside for the moment the fact that such a move can only INCREASE the cost of energy for every man woman, and child in America at a time of dire economic distress, one must ask why the Administration is fucking around with shit-that-does-not-matterâ„¢ while the economy continues to sink under the weight of the unfucked credit/banking system and the specter of trillion dollar boondoggle bailoutsâ„¢ and pork-laden deficit budgets as far as the eye can see.
Today, the Democrats continued to place their emphasis on shit-that-does-not-matterâ„¢, with Congressman Barney "Hot Bottom" Frank giving a press conference to announce his legislative agenda for March. You' would think he would be focusing like a laser beam on unfucking the credit/banking system, but no, the Queen of Massachusetts politics instead is going to concentrate this month on... wait for it..... "more regulation of the credit card industry."
Little did we know that the economic crisis we are in was the product of the evils of unsecured debt.
In the past couple days, the TED spread is skyrocketing in the past couple days, with the 3 mo Treasury note yield collapsing by nearly a third, and in the past month the commercial mortgage credit spreads have reached levels far exceeding those seen last November.
And still the administration continues to dawdle over shit-that-does-not-matterâ„¢, like nominating a new FEMA head (while there are no hurricanes in sight), while the single most direct, cost-free, and immediate resolution to much of the credit/banking crisis -- mark-to-market reform -- languishes like a forlorn wallflower.
The only conclusion I can come to is that this administration, and its sycophants in congress and the Main stream media, are obsessed with using the economic crisis as a bludgeon to cram down as much socialist/fascist take-over of the economy and social re-engineering of the free market as they can get away with before the public wises up.
In the end, I don't think these Keynesian Klowns have any idea how to unfuck the economy, even if their lives depended on it.
That no Republican can seem to manage to articulate the righteous indignation & outrage this utter incompetence deserves is equally disturbing.
Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:45 am
kingprout wrote:Thoro wrote:I hope this comes back to bite him on his fat ass. I want to see someone he thinks is a wrongdoer turn it completely around on him and implicate Frank. Of course, part of the reason Fudd's doing this is to cover hisincompetentincontinent ass.
given his proclivities...
Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:30 pm
Celtjew wrote:kingprout wrote:Thoro wrote:I hope this comes back to bite him on his fat ass. I want to see someone he thinks is a wrongdoer turn it completely around on him and implicate Frank. Of course, part of the reason Fudd's doing this is to cover hisincompetentincontinent ass.
given his proclivities...
From what I understand from gay friends, the only significant change in the defecatory functions is less resonant farts.
Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:32 pm
Elmo Zoneball wrote: As good a place as any to drop in my rant du jour:
I no longer labor under any illusion that this administration has any intention of solving the economic crisis, nor has it the competence were it its objective.
The economic illness afflicting not only the US but the world revolves around the collapse of the housing bubble and the related credit crisis that was virtually assured by the Sarbanes-Oxley mark-to-market rule, as enforced through FASB 157 adopted in 2007, virtually guaranteeing a death spiral in asset values of mortgage-backed-securities and their derivative financial instruments once the housing bubble popped. So long as these assets are forced to virtually zero value -- despite the fact that 88% of all mortgages continue to be paid on time, and 92% of working Americans still have jobs -- a significant portion of the financial system is in dire straights, unable to borrow/lend, and the continued crisis in credit is the logjam that prevents meaningful recovery to commence.
As has been noted elsewhere, the latest mortgage "cram down" measure not only won't fix the problem, it will materially exacerbate further long term deterioration in the housing market values as the interest rates are forced higher, and the number of qualifying borrowers dwindle.
Adding further insult to injury is this administration's obsession with shit-that-does-not-matterâ„¢, whilst doing nothing productive to unfuck the credit/banking system. Examples abound:
Yesterday, Treasury Sec'y Geithner announce the administration's proposals to eliminate all tax credits/reductions for the oil industry, on the grounds that its product contributed to "global warming." Putting aside for the moment the fact that such a move can only INCREASE the cost of energy for every man woman, and child in America at a time of dire economic distress, one must ask why the Administration is fucking around with shit-that-does-not-matterâ„¢ while the economy continues to sink under the weight of the unfucked credit/banking system and the specter of trillion dollar boondoggle bailoutsâ„¢ and pork-laden deficit budgets as far as the eye can see.
Today, the Democrats continued to place their emphasis on shit-that-does-not-matterâ„¢, with Congressman Barney "Hot Bottom" Frank giving a press conference to announce his legislative agenda for March. You' would think he would be focusing like a laser beam on unfucking the credit/banking system, but no, the Queen of Massachusetts politics instead is going to concentrate this month on... wait for it..... "more regulation of the credit card industry."
Little did we know that the economic crisis we are in was the product of the evils of unsecured debt.
In the past couple days, the TED spread is skyrocketing in the past couple days, with the 3 mo Treasury note yield collapsing by nearly a third, and in the past month the commercial mortgage credit spreads have reached levels far exceeding those seen last November.
And still the administration continues to dawdle over shit-that-does-not-matterâ„¢, like nominating a new FEMA head (while there are no hurricanes in sight), while the single most direct, cost-free, and immediate resolution to much of the credit/banking crisis -- mark-to-market reform -- languishes like a forlorn wallflower.
The only conclusion I can come to is that this administration, and its sycophants in congress and the Main stream media, are obsessed with using the economic crisis as a bludgeon to cram down as much socialist/fascist take-over of the economy and social re-engineering of the free market as they can get away with before the public wises up.
In the end, I don't think these Keynesian Klowns have any idea how to unfuck the economy, even if their lives depended on it.
That no Republican can seem to manage to articulate the righteous indignation & outrage this utter incompetence deserves is equally disturbing.
Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:34 pm
Hey Barney, be careful what you wish for...
Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:54 pm
Gumlegs wrote:POST OF THE WEEK!Elmo Zoneball wrote: As good a place as any to drop in my rant du jour:
Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:10 pm
despite the fact that 88% of all mortgages continue to be paid on time, and 92% of working Americans still have jobs --
Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:38 pm
kingprout wrote:I refer you to this post: http://forum.darwincentral.org/viewtopic.php?p=436525#p436525
I've been expecting this since Zero got elected.
Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:17 pm
Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:03 pm
js1138 wrote:It seems to me that all leveraged investments are essentially Ponzi schemes that are profitable only if you get out before the supply of rubes runs out.
Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:01 am
Inspector_Clouseau wrote:The leftoids refer to the present period as "late capitalism."
Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:13 pm
Elmo Zoneball wrote:kingprout wrote:I refer you to this post: http://forum.darwincentral.org/viewtopic.php?p=436525#p436525
I've been expecting this since Zero got elected.
Nice crystal ball you have there. Well done.
Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:09 pm
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticle ... 7362312361
Let The Inquisition Start With Frank
By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Friday, March 06, 2009 4:20 PM PT
Oversight: Congressman Barney Frank says he wants some of those responsible for our current financial meltdown to be prosecuted. And we couldn't agree more. First up in the court dock: Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass.
Even by the extraordinarily loose standards of Congress, it takes some chutzpah for someone such as Frank to suggest that he'll seek prosecutions for those behind the housing and financial crunch and for what he called "a strongly empowered systemic risk regulator."
For Frank, perhaps more than any single individual in private or public life, is responsible for both the housing market mess and subsequent bank disaster. And no, this isn't partisan hyperbole or historical exaggeration.
But first, a little trip down memory lane.....
Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:32 pm
Inspector_Clouseau wrote:Great rant by Elmo, thanks.
The leftoids refer to the present period as "late capitalism." From their POV, they're just giving capitalism a few more kicks as they drag it toward its grave. Each of them is eager to be the Hero who delivers the death blow. I think that's why you see people like Geithner, Frank, and Waxman, as well as Obama, going off on these seemingly tangential missions of abuse against whatever is still actually working. Having any part of "the system" still working properly is an affront to their sensibilities, it's a reminder that there are still remnants of the ancien regime that need to be mutilated.
Sun Mar 08, 2009 2:38 am
Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:08 am
Ichneumon wrote:Click on the thumbnail for the full-sized cartoon:
Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:04 am
Elmo Zoneball wrote:ml1954 wrote:Shryke wrote:Perhaps you also missed Geitner's comments regarding green fucking energy?
I heard a bit about that. Like with corporate taxes, my reaction was... WTF is he concerned with and talking about that right now? Isn't he supposed to be working on a plan to fix this economic crisis? Hasn't he been working on this for six months? Why doesn't he have a plan by now, any plan, good or bad? Why is he spending time on this relatively low priority BS?
It looks like Obama/marxist style Laissez-faire. Blame it all on the evil excesses of capitalism, let the market sort out the economic crisis, if it can, don't bother to try to help while claiming you are, and in the meantime take the opportunity to advance a socialist agenda as much as possible, not caring about how it might affect the economic crisis caused by that evil capitalist economy.
As good a place as any to drop in my rant du jour:
I no longer labor under any illusion that this administration has any intention of solving the economic crisis, nor has it the competence were it its objective.
The economic illness afflicting not only the US but the world revolves around the collapse of the housing bubble and the related credit crisis that was virtually assured by the Sarbanes-Oxley mark-to-market rule, as enforced through FASB 157 adopted in 2007, virtually guaranteeing a death spiral in asset values of mortgage-backed-securities and their derivative financial instruments once the housing bubble popped. So long as these assets are forced to virtually zero value -- despite the fact that 88% of all mortgages continue to be paid on time, and 92% of working Americans still have jobs -- a significant portion of the financial system is in dire straights, unable to borrow/lend, and the continued crisis in credit is the logjam that prevents meaningful recovery to commence.
As has been noted elsewhere, the latest mortgage "cram down" measure not only won't fix the problem, it will materially exacerbate further long term deterioration in the housing market values as the interest rates are forced higher, and the number of qualifying borrowers dwindle.
Adding further insult to injury is this administration's obsession with shit-that-does-not-matterâ„¢, whilst doing nothing productive to unfuck the credit/banking system. Examples abound:
Yesterday, Treasury Sec'y Geithner announce the administration's proposals to eliminate all tax credits/reductions for the oil industry, on the grounds that its product contributed to "global warming." Putting aside for the moment the fact that such a move can only INCREASE the cost of energy for every man woman, and child in America at a time of dire economic distress, one must ask why the Administration is fucking around with shit-that-does-not-matterâ„¢ while the economy continues to sink under the weight of the unfucked credit/banking system and the specter of trillion dollar boondoggle bailoutsâ„¢ and pork-laden deficit budgets as far as the eye can see.
Today, the Democrats continued to place their emphasis on shit-that-does-not-matterâ„¢, with Congressman Barney "Hot Bottom" Frank giving a press conference to announce his legislative agenda for March. You' would think he would be focusing like a laser beam on unfucking the credit/banking system, but no, the Queen of Massachusetts politics instead is going to concentrate this month on... wait for it..... "more regulation of the credit card industry."
Little did we know that the economic crisis we are in was the product of the evils of unsecured debt.
In the past couple days, the TED spread is skyrocketing in the past couple days, with the 3 mo Treasury note yield collapsing by nearly a third, and in the past month the commercial mortgage credit spreads have reached levels far exceeding those seen last November.
And still the administration continues to dawdle over shit-that-does-not-matterâ„¢, like nominating a new FEMA head (while there are no hurricanes in sight), while the single most direct, cost-free, and immediate resolution to much of the credit/banking crisis -- mark-to-market reform -- languishes like a forlorn wallflower.
The only conclusion I can come to is that this administration, and its sycophants in congress and the Main stream media, are obsessed with using the economic crisis as a bludgeon to cram down as much socialist/fascist take-over of the economy and social re-engineering of the free market as they can get away with before the public wises up.
In the end, I don't think these Keynesian Klowns have any idea how to unfuck the economy, even if their lives depended on it.
That no Republican can seem to manage to articulate the righteous indignation & outrage this utter incompetence deserves is equally disturbing.
Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:30 pm
Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:46 am
Elmo Zoneball wrote:As good a place as any to drop in my rant du jour:
I no longer labor under any illusion that this administration has any intention of solving the economic crisis, nor has it the competence were it its objective.
The economic illness afflicting not only the US but the world revolves around the collapse of the housing bubble and the related credit crisis that was virtually assured by the Sarbanes-Oxley mark-to-market rule, as enforced through FASB 157 adopted in 2007, virtually guaranteeing a death spiral in asset values of mortgage-backed-securities and their derivative financial instruments once the housing bubble popped. So long as these assets are forced to virtually zero value -- despite the fact that 88% of all mortgages continue to be paid on time, and 92% of working Americans still have jobs -- a significant portion of the financial system is in dire straights, unable to borrow/lend, and the continued crisis in credit is the logjam that prevents meaningful recovery to commence.
As has been noted elsewhere, the latest mortgage "cram down" measure not only won't fix the problem, it will materially exacerbate further long term deterioration in the housing market values as the interest rates are forced higher, and the number of qualifying borrowers dwindle.
Adding further insult to injury is this administration's obsession with shit-that-does-not-matterâ„¢, whilst doing nothing productive to unfuck the credit/banking system. Examples abound:
Yesterday, Treasury Sec'y Geithner announce the administration's proposals to eliminate all tax credits/reductions for the oil industry, on the grounds that its product contributed to "global warming." Putting aside for the moment the fact that such a move can only INCREASE the cost of energy for every man woman, and child in America at a time of dire economic distress, one must ask why the Administration is fucking around with shit-that-does-not-matterâ„¢ while the economy continues to sink under the weight of the unfucked credit/banking system and the specter of trillion dollar boondoggle bailoutsâ„¢ and pork-laden deficit budgets as far as the eye can see.
Today, the Democrats continued to place their emphasis on shit-that-does-not-matterâ„¢, with Congressman Barney "Hot Bottom" Frank giving a press conference to announce his legislative agenda for March. You' would think he would be focusing like a laser beam on unfucking the credit/banking system, but no, the Queen of Massachusetts politics instead is going to concentrate this month on... wait for it..... "more regulation of the credit card industry."
Little did we know that the economic crisis we are in was the product of the evils of unsecured debt.
In the past couple days, the TED spread is skyrocketing in the past couple days, with the 3 mo Treasury note yield collapsing by nearly a third, and in the past month the commercial mortgage credit spreads have reached levels far exceeding those seen last November.
And still the administration continues to dawdle over shit-that-does-not-matterâ„¢, like nominating a new FEMA head (while there are no hurricanes in sight), while the single most direct, cost-free, and immediate resolution to much of the credit/banking crisis -- mark-to-market reform -- languishes like a forlorn wallflower.
The only conclusion I can come to is that this administration, and its sycophants in congress and the Main stream media, are obsessed with using the economic crisis as a bludgeon to cram down as much socialist/fascist take-over of the economy and social re-engineering of the free market as they can get away with before the public wises up.
In the end, I don't think these Keynesian Klowns have any idea how to unfuck the economy, even if their lives depended on it.
That no Republican can seem to manage to articulate the righteous indignation & outrage this utter incompetence deserves is equally disturbing.

Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:50 am
Elmo Zoneball wrote:By popular demand, a revised, corrected, and slightly extended version of my original rant. Whoever posted it to the blog please substitute this version for the original....
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I no longer labor under any illusion that this administration has any intention of solving the economic crisis, nor has it the competence were it its objective.
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