Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:09 pm

New numbers

Date Poll Top Guy Margin

11-Feb
AZ Romney 28
MI Romney 12
GA Gingrich 16
OH Romney 5

13-Feb
MI Santorum 15
GA Gingrich 16
CA Romney 5

14-Feb
Santorum vs Nero Nero 7.5
Romney vs Nero Nero 7
MI Santorum 3

15-Feb
MI Santorum 9.5
OH Santorum 7
NY Romney 12

16-Feb
MI Santorum 4
OH Santorum 18

17-Feb
AZ Romney 8

18-Feb
MA Romney 48
Santorum vs Nero Nero 8
Romney vs Nero Nero 8

19-Feb
in IA, Nero vs Paul Paul 7
in IA, Nero vs Gingrich Nero 14
in IA, Nero vs Santorum Santorum 4
in IA, Nero vs Romney Romney 2
Nero vs Romney Nero 4
Nero vs Santorum Nero 6

20-Feb
MI Santorum 4
MI Sant/Romn tie
AZ Romney 3
OK Santorum 16
Romney vs Nero Nero 4
Santorum vs Nero Nero 3

Romney's dive in AZ has been meteoric, but he's still clinging to a small lead.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:14 pm

Romney vs Nero Santorum 3

:brow:

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:20 pm

dread wrote:
Romney vs Nero Santorum 3

:brow:


OK, I fixed it, but does that changed your smiley?

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:21 pm

furball4paws wrote:
dread wrote:
Romney vs Nero Santorum 3

:brow:


OK, I fixed it, but does that changed your smiley?
Not really ...
:|

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:14 pm

Things are tightening all over.

Date Poll Top Guy Margin

11-Feb
AZ Romney 28
MI Romney 12
GA Gingrich 16
OH Romney 5

13-Feb
MI Santorum 15
GA Gingrich 16
CA Romney 5

14-Feb
Santorum vs Nero Nero 7.5
Romney vs Nero Nero 7
MI Santorum 3

15-Feb
MI Santorum 9.5
OH Santorum 7
NY Romney 12

16-Feb
MI Santorum 4
OH Santorum 18

17-Feb
AZ Romney 8

18-Feb
MA Romney 48
Santorum vs Nero Nero 8
Romney vs Nero Nero 8

19-Feb
in IA, Nero vs Paul Paul 7
in IA, Nero vs Gingrich Nero 14
in IA, Nero vs Santorum Santorum 4
in IA, Nero vs Romney Romney 2
Nero vs Romney Nero 4
Nero vs Santorum Nero 6

20-Feb
MI Santorum 4
MI Sant/Romn tie
AZ Romney 3
OK Santorum 16
Romney vs Nero Nero 4
Santorum vs Nero Nero 3

21-Feb
MI Santorum 2 (average)
AZ Romney 10
GA Gingrich 2
WA Santorum 11
Romney vs Nero Nero 2
Santorum vs Nero Nero 2

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:38 pm

furball4paws wrote:Things are tightening all over. ...
Sphincter ani externus in GA.
Nuet - 26, Mittens - 24, Sanitorium - 23, Paul - 12

Poll: Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum nearly even in Georgia

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:26 pm

Big day for polls:
Date
Poll Top Guy Margin

11-Feb
AZ Romney 28
MI Romney 12
GA Gingrich 16
OH Romney 5

13-Feb
MI Santorum 15
GA Gingrich 16
CA Romney 5

14-Feb
Santorum vs Nero Nero 7.5
Romney vs Nero Nero 7
MI Santorum 3

15-Feb
MI Santorum 9.5
OH Santorum 7
NY Romney 12

16-Feb
MI Santorum 4
OH Santorum 18

17-Feb
AZ Romney 8

18-Feb
MA Romney 48
Santorum vs Nero Nero 8
Romney vs Nero Nero 8

19-Feb
in IA, Nero vs Paul Paul 7
in IA, Nero vs Gingrich Nero 14
in IA, Nero vs Santorum Santorum 4
in IA, Nero vs Romney Romney 2
Nero vs Romney Nero 4
Nero vs Santorum Nero 6

20-Feb
MI Santorum 4
MI Sant/Romn tie
AZ Romney 3
OK Santorum 16
Romney vs Nero Nero 4
Santorum vs Nero Nero 3

21-Feb
MI Santorum 2 (average)
AZ Romney 10
GA Gingrich 2
WA Santorum 11
Romney vs Nero Nero 2
Santorum vs Nero Nero 2

22-Feb
MI Romney 2
AZ Romney 16
OK Santorum 21
WI Santorum 16
CA Romney 6
US Romney vs Nero Nero 5.3
US Santorum vs Nero Nero 5
in MI Romney vs Nero Nero 18
in MI Santorum vs Nero Nero 26
in MI Gingrich vs Nero Nero 28
in MI Paul vs Nero Nero 22
in AZ Romney vs Nero Romney 5
in AZ Santorum vs Nero Santorum 3
in AZ Gingrich vs Nero Nero 5
in AZ Paul vs Nero Paul 2
in WI Romney vs Nero Nero 5
in WI Santorum vs Nero Nero 11
in WI Gingrich vs Nero Nero 23
in WI Paul vs Nero Nero 16

I see several things. First, Santorum polls, overall, about the same as Romney nationally, but, when you look at potential swing states, neither seems to be able to come close to Nero (see MI and WI). In Republican states (AZ) both best Nero. Even Paul beats Nero in AZ. Newt has big poll number problems.

One or another's "electability" or lack thereof, is not supported by any of these numbers.

I've got a headache.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:58 am

Today's numbers:

Date Poll Top Guy Margin

11-Feb
AZ Romney 28
MI Romney 12
GA Gingrich 16
OH Romney 5

13-Feb
MI Santorum 15
GA Gingrich 16
CA Romney 5

14-Feb
Santorum vs Nero Nero 7.5
Romney vs Nero Nero 7
MI Santorum 3

15-Feb
MI Santorum 9.5
OH Santorum 7
NY Romney 12

16-Feb
MI Santorum 4
OH Santorum 18

17-Feb
AZ Romney 8

18-Feb
MA Romney 48
Santorum vs Nero Nero 8
Romney vs Nero Nero 8

19-Feb
in IA, Nero vs Paul Paul 7
in IA, Nero vs Gingrich Nero 14
in IA, Nero vs Santorum Santorum 4
in IA, Nero vs Romney Romney 2
Nero vs Romney Nero 4
Nero vs Santorum Nero 6

20-Feb
MI Santorum 4
MI Sant/Romn tie
AZ Romney 3
OK Santorum 16
Romney vs Nero Nero 4
Santorum vs Nero Nero 3

21-Feb
MI Santorum 2 (average)
AZ Romney 10
GA Gingrich 2
WA Santorum 11
Romney vs Nero Nero 2
Santorum vs Nero Nero 2

22-Feb
MI Romney 2
AZ Romney 16
OK Santorum 21
WI Santorum 16
CA Romney 6
US Romney vs Nero Nero 5.3
US Santorum vs Nero Nero 5
in MI Romney vs Nero Nero 18
in MI Santorum vs Nero Nero 26
in MI Gingrich vs Nero Nero 28
in MI Paul vs Nero Nero 22
in AZ Romney vs Nero Romney 5
in AZ Santorum vs Nero Santorum 3
in AZ Gingrich vs Nero Nero 5
in AZ Paul vs Nero Paul 2
in WI Romney vs Nero Nero 5
in WI Santorum vs Nero Nero 11
in WI Gingrich vs Nero Nero 23
in WI Paul vs Nero Nero 16

23-Feb
MI Santorum 3
PA Santorum 29
in PA Romney vs Nero Nero 8
in PA Santorum vs Nero Nero 8
in PA Gingrich vs Nero Nero 16
in PA Paul vs Nero Nero 13

Another disturbing state. PA should be a "swing" state. Nero shows in this poll a clear lead over any Republican. Of course you'd expect Santorum to do well in PA. I understand that once a candidate is chosen, the individual state numbers will likely change, but the trend so far in potential "swing" states (WI, MI, PA) is not positive for any Republican.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:38 pm

It is worrying, indeed.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:35 pm

hchutch wrote:It is worrying, indeed.

I guess America wants socialism.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:49 pm

Nilla wrote:
hchutch wrote:It is worrying, indeed.

I guess America wants socialism.


Socialism is the natural result of incremental, ratcheted compassion in government by an electorate that realizes it has access to each other's wallets.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:17 pm

Almost 50% pay no income taxes. There is now no direct consequence to voting for US Santa Claus.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:22 pm

So what now? Forget about starting or maintaining a business.

Maybe I should try to find a good government job. Become part of the Nomenklatura.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:24 pm

jlogajan wrote:Almost 50% pay no income taxes. There is now no direct consequence to voting for US Santa Claus.

I suppose we have already reached the tipping point. I realize the GOP candidates are lackluster, but if that many people are even considering voting for Obama and his destructive policies, then I take that as a sign the nation is more or less content with the way things are.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:30 pm

http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson1325.html

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:31 pm

Poll: Obama benefiting from improving economy

(AP link only)

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... 0c6bbf3bef


The MSM says the economy is improving!

:poms: :poms: :poms: :yipee:

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:34 pm

js1138 wrote:http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson1325.html

At least he is a Red Sox fan.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:49 pm

Gallup sez: Romney up by 4 on Obama

:dontknow:

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:40 pm

dread wrote:Gallup sez: Romney up by 4 on Obama

:dontknow:


That is nationwide. But the battle, as usual, is in a few battleground states. So far, what poll numbers are available indicate Nero is ahead in those (WI, MI, PA). see above poll numbers.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:10 pm

furball4paws wrote:
dread wrote:Gallup sez: Romney up by 4 on Obama

:dontknow:


That is nationwide. But the battle, as usual, is in a few battleground states. So far, what poll numbers are available indicate Nero is ahead in those (WI, MI, PA). see above poll numbers.

Those states are among the ones that will be fucked the hardest and deepest by an Obama second term.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:16 pm

furball4paws wrote:
dread wrote:Gallup sez: Romney up by 4 on Obama

:dontknow:


That is nationwide. But the battle, as usual, is in a few battleground states. So far, what poll numbers are available indicate Nero is ahead in those (WI, MI, PA). see above poll numbers.

You'd have to go back to Hayes/Tilden 1876 for a case where the popular vote difference (about 3%) wasn't enough for a victory. In the more recent Bush/Gore case the difference was only 0.5%. It wouldn't be easy to lose by 4% of the popular vote and still win the election. In fact it would an historic first.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:21 pm

Nilla wrote:
furball4paws wrote:
dread wrote:Gallup sez: Romney up by 4 on Obama
:dontknow:
That is nationwide. But the battle, as usual, is in a few battleground states. So far, what poll numbers are available indicate Nero is ahead in those (WI, MI, PA). see above poll numbers.

Those states are among the ones that will be fucked the hardest and deepest by an Obama second term.

Well from the poll numbers, it appears they don't grasp that.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:18 pm

Wisconsin voters are certifiably insane, and Michigan voters think The Dear Reader has saved them with the GM and Chrysler bailouts. Anyone suspected of not voting in the right fashion in Pennsylvania will be deterred by New Black Panthers.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:26 pm

I got polled again - they went through my demographics and then decided they had already had too many old farts! And all before I could denounce Romney as the Antichrist and Santorum as Beelzebub! :(

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:31 pm

balrog666 wrote:I got polled again - they went through my demographics and then decided they had already had too many old farts! And all before I could denounce Romney as the Antichrist and Santorum as Beelzebub! :(


The last telephone polling I received ended about two questions in when I said Obama is doing a lousy job. Not the answer they were looking for.

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