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excineribus
 Post subject: Unmasked blogger blames First Baptist, Sheriff's Office
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:31 pm 
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Unmasked blogger blames First Baptist, Sheriff's Office
A subpoena is used to obtain critic's identity from Google
By Jeff Brumley Story
updated at 6:29 AM on Friday, Apr. 10, 2009

A blogger critical of First Baptist Church Pastor Mac Brunson wants to know why his Web site was investigated by a police detective who is also a member of the minister’s security detail.

Thomas A. Rich also wants the Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office to explain what suspected crimes led Detective Robert Hinson to open the probe into his once-anonymous Web site.

Rich also wants to know why Hinson revealed his name to the church despite finding no wrongdoing. Hinson obtained a subpoena from the State Attorney’s Office requiring Google Inc. to reveal the author of the blog...

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/ ... ffs_office

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 Post subject: Re: Unmasked blogger blames First Baptist, Sheriff's Office
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:00 pm 
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excineribus wrote:
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Unmasked blogger blames First Baptist, Sheriff's Office
A subpoena is used to obtain critic's identity from Google
By Jeff Brumley Story
updated at 6:29 AM on Friday, Apr. 10, 2009

A blogger critical of First Baptist Church Pastor Mac Brunson wants to know why his Web site was investigated by a police detective who is also a member of the minister’s security detail.

Thomas A. Rich also wants the Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office to explain what suspected crimes led Detective Robert Hinson to open the probe into his once-anonymous Web site.

Rich also wants to know why Hinson revealed his name to the church despite finding no wrongdoing. Hinson obtained a subpoena from the State Attorney’s Office requiring Google Inc. to reveal the author of the blog...

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/ ... ffs_office

Why religious power is best viewed as uniformly evil. A case study.


Why does a "Baptist Church Pastor" have a "security detail".

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 Post subject: Re: Unmasked blogger blames First Baptist, Sheriff's Office
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:48 pm 
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Why does a "Baptist Church Pastor" have a "security detail".
Vanity. Unless the detail is large enough to blanket the large areas [like the presidential detail], someone who really wants to get him, will.
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 Post subject: Re: Unmasked blogger blames First Baptist, Sheriff's Office
PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 1:54 am 
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narby wrote:
Why does a "Baptist Church Pastor" have a "security detail".

Apparently, you've never met a Baptist Pastor. The one who crossed my path was one vile individual.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:09 am 
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narby wrote:
excineribus wrote:
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Unmasked blogger blames First Baptist, Sheriff's Office
A subpoena is used to obtain critic's identity from Google
By Jeff Brumley Story
updated at 6:29 AM on Friday, Apr. 10, 2009

A blogger critical of First Baptist Church Pastor Mac Brunson wants to know why his Web site was investigated by a police detective who is also a member of the minister’s security detail.

Thomas A. Rich also wants the Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office to explain what suspected crimes led Detective Robert Hinson to open the probe into his once-anonymous Web site.

Rich also wants to know why Hinson revealed his name to the church despite finding no wrongdoing. Hinson obtained a subpoena from the State Attorney’s Office requiring Google Inc. to reveal the author of the blog...

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/ ... ffs_office

Why religious power is best viewed as uniformly evil. A case study.


Why does a "Baptist Church Pastor" have a "security detail".


I'm thinking if some wacko spent two years of his life obsessed with my every move, I might take on a bit of extra security myself.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:53 am 
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Two additional bloggers investigated by Hinson said they were also not contacted. They learned of the probe in middle or late March. Their blogs do not focus on First Baptist.

Mackesy said the three bloggers didn’t need to be contacted because Hinson uncovered nothing criminal.
“The detective hasn’t done anything wrong,” he said.


This is abuse of power.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:03 am 
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excineribus wrote:
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Unmasked blogger blames First Baptist, Sheriff's Office
A subpoena is used to obtain critic's identity from Google
By Jeff Brumley Story
updated at 6:29 AM on Friday, Apr. 10, 2009

A blogger critical of First Baptist Church Pastor Mac Brunson wants to know why his Web site was investigated by a police detective who is also a member of the minister’s security detail.

Thomas A. Rich also wants the Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office to explain what suspected crimes led Detective Robert Hinson to open the probe into his once-anonymous Web site.

Rich also wants to know why Hinson revealed his name to the church despite finding no wrongdoing. Hinson obtained a subpoena from the State Attorney’s Office requiring Google Inc. to reveal the author of the blog...

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/ ... ffs_office

Why religious power is best viewed as uniformly evil. A case study.


Religion seems to be secondary to the abuse of state power in this case.
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Doctor Stochastic
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:06 pm 
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Security organizations do not abuse power because it is in their advantage to do so, they abuse power because it is in their nature to do so.

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Security organizations do not abuse power because it is in their advantage to do so, they abuse power because it is in their nature to do so.


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 Post subject: Re: Unmasked blogger blames First Baptist, Sheriff's Office
PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:13 pm 
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Doctor Stochastic wrote:
Security organizations do not abuse power because it is in their advantage to do so, they abuse power because it is in their nature to do so.
Actually, this is in the nature of power itself and of whoever gets to wield it. The security organizations are merely a particular case.
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 Post subject: Re: Unmasked blogger blames First Baptist, Sheriff's Office
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GSlob wrote:
Doctor Stochastic wrote:
Security organizations do not abuse power because it is in their advantage to do so, they abuse power because it is in their nature to do so.
Actually, this is in the nature of power itself and of whoever gets to wield it. The security organizations are merely a particular case.

Thus Lord Acton's dictum is demonstrated yet again.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:34 am 
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This one is pretty close to home, because I have a nephew who make his living suing the JSO. He is seldom sort of clients. We were discussing this yesterday.

First Baptist pretty much owns Jacksonville. It's the local equivalent of the Chicago Democrats.

It would be nice if the blogger community stepped up on this one. Local resources aren't going to go very far.

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Doctor Stochastic
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:33 pm 
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Gumlegs wrote:
GSlob wrote:
Doctor Stochastic wrote:
Security organizations do not abuse power because it is in their advantage to do so, they abuse power because it is in their nature to do so.
Actually, this is in the nature of power itself and of whoever gets to wield it. The security organizations are merely a particular case.

Thus Lord Acton's dictum is demonstrated yet again.

Thus government power should be limited; the principle of Least Acton.

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