Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:40 pm

Per the Cain pattern, this won't hurt Gingrich in SC, may even help him as it did for Cain when he went up in the polls right after the attacks. Gingrich could fade later again, however, this is old news, so there is less chance of repeating Cain's trajectory.

All the other factors (Palin, Perry, a surge from Mondays' debate performance) could give Gingrich an SC win. I'm not confident of it, but now wouldn't be surprised.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:52 pm

If Newt wins the nomination, at least his scandals will be yesterday's news and not something that will surprise voters.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:29 am

Cui bono? or, in the idiomatic from the other language, whose mill is she [Newt's ex] pouring water on?

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:17 pm

If I read this Gallup poll right, after Romney's Jan 15 peak, Santorum and Gingrich each picked half Romney's decline. Then after the MLK day debate Gingrich took away from Santorum support. Then Gingrich continued to take away support from Romney. The reported data includes 15-19. So not all post Newt-divorce stuff, yet.

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Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:26 pm

Clemson University’s newest 2012 Palmetto Poll shows Romney trailing Gingrich in the South's first primary state, where voting starts tomorrow morning. The poll found Gingrich with 32% support, followed by Romney with 26%, Paul with 11% and Santorum with 9%.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la ... 9909.story

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:35 am

doc30 wrote:If Newt wins the nomination, at least his scandals will be yesterday's news and not something that will surprise voters.
Since the msmers would be digging them up anyway, Newton L. Gingrich would have no choice but to raise much more stink about obaa's scandals than they will about his own. Which should not be cognitively difficult.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:46 pm

GSlob wrote:
doc30 wrote:If Newt wins the nomination, at least his scandals will be yesterday's news and not something that will surprise voters.
Since the msmers would be digging them up anyway, Newton L. Gingrich would have no choice but to raise much more stink about obaa's scandals than they will about his own. Which should not be cognitively difficult.

That is my only fear. The MSM may well make all these old-news scandals the focus of their coverage while, again, ignoring everything negative Zero does and says.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:25 pm

doc30 wrote:The MSM may well make all these old-news scandals the focus of their coverage while, again, ignoring everything negative Zero does and says.

Since Xero does very little and speaks mush, that would be the desk to man.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:02 pm

Fox News calls Newt the winner of the SC primary.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:19 pm

doc30 wrote:
GSlob wrote:
doc30 wrote:If Newt wins the nomination, at least his scandals will be yesterday's news and not something that will surprise voters.
Since the msmers would be digging them up anyway, Newton L. Gingrich would have no choice but to raise much more stink about obaa's scandals than they will about his own. Which should not be cognitively difficult.

That is my only fear. The MSM may well make all these old-news scandals the focus of their coverage while, again, ignoring everything negative Zero does and says.
Where you see fear, I see opportunity. Why not play jeremiah wright story as that story should have been played, even with a 4 years delay? And add a lot of more recent stuff to it, obamacabre, bailouts, solyndras, keystone pipeline, you name it. Dirt could be flung both ways, and there are megatons of it on obaa. Let it be flung.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:23 pm

jlogajan wrote:Fox News calls Newt the winner of the SC primary.
Mittens 36%
Noot 34%
Santorum 14%
Paul 10%

<1% reporting

seems a little premature to me ...
:-k

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:36 pm

Exit polls:

http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/epolls/sc

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:18 pm

I'm not sure what Santorum's game is after today. Maybe he's waiting for Newt to self-destruct. That's always worth a gamble.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:26 am

Rassmussen

Florida GOP Primary:

Gingrich 41%
Romney 32%
Santorum 11%
Paul 8%

Two weeks ago Romney lead by 22 points.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:39 pm

GALLUP:

OBAMA 50% GINGRICH 48%
OBAMA 50% ROMNEY 48%

http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:55 pm

jlogajan wrote:GALLUP:

OBAMA 50% GINGRICH 48%
OBAMA 50% ROMNEY 48%

http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx

Wow. Very interesting.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:47 pm

That's registered voters - show me likely voters.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:15 pm

Senator Bedfellow wrote:That's registered voters - show me likely voters.

Yup. I can't believe Obama is still so popular that he will win. If he does, we deserve to have the country fall off a cliff. But even then, it won't change voters' minds that O-hole is The One.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:23 pm

I didn't think Clinton could possibly win a second term.

Don't count the moochers out--they have to have their own kind in office to preserve their status quo.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:26 pm

Coyote wrote:I didn't think Clinton could possibly win a second term.

Bob Dole.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:40 pm

jlogajan wrote:
Coyote wrote:I didn't think Clinton could possibly win a second term.

Bob Dole.


3-way race. Twice.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:41 pm

jlogajan wrote:
Coyote wrote:I didn't think Clinton could possibly win a second term.

Bob Dole.

Ross Pee-rot.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:42 pm

kellynch wrote:
jlogajan wrote:
Coyote wrote:I didn't think Clinton could possibly win a second term.

Bob Dole.


3-way race. Twice.

Ah, you beat me.

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:21 pm

I got polled again for Florida. The usual stuff ... this candidate, that candidate, which issues are important, who could beat Ohole, and ... an out-of-left-field question about Rubio. Makes me wonder ... :-k

Re: The Vastly Underimproved Poll Thread

Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:57 pm

NBC/Marist poll: Romney up 15 over Gingrich in Florida

Mitt Romney may be on his way to a decisive victory in the Florida GOP primary Tuesday, according to a new NBC/Marist poll.

Romney leads Newt Gingrich by 15 points, 42 percent to 27 percent in the crucial state. Rick Santorum is third with 16 percent, followed by Ron Paul with 11 percent. Just 4 percent said they were undecided.

"The bottom line in all this is Romney's sitting in the driver's seat going into Tuesday," said Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion at Marist College, who conducted the poll.

If Romney pulls off a victory of that magnitude, he could be on a glide path to the nomination. But there are warning signs for the Republican Party that the primary has taken a toll on Romney and the rest of the GOP field. Each of the candidates struggles in a general-election matchup with President Barack Obama in this swing state, especially with independents.

...

There was a stark gender gap between Romney and Gingrich. Women said they preferred Romney by 47-26 percent over Gingrich. The gap is closer with men, but Romney leads with them as well, 38-29 percent.


This is why Newt will never win in the general election.

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