Atlas Shrugged Part II set to open in October

I'm not up to speed on ancient Greek economic systems. What *did* they have?

Slaves - which is not quite a capitalistic arrangement [capitalism knows of wage slavery, though]. Athens was a slaveholding democracy, Sparta was a slaveholding "constitutional statist monarchy". And here I would like to correct my typo [before it comes to the eyes of emperor]: not "mote complex than that" but "more complex than that". The keys for "r" and "t" are adjacent.

A mote, in God's eye, is acceptable.

I'd rather have a beemer.

I'd rather have a beemer.

Where I work, a lot of our clients have them, many having gotten a "really good buy" on a used car.

Then they price the parts needed for the upcoming scheduled repairs and required maintenance, and tend to "blanch" at the cost.

I try to explain it to them:

"These parts for your fine German-engineered car are imported. They have to come across an ocean to get here."

"It's not like that cheap stuff we get from China."

Thread over.

NicknamedBob the winner by acclamation.

He has severely punished his opposition and sent them packing.

FWIW: Sean Hannity just commented in passing that he is has just finished recording his segments of Part 2. He plays himself, a commentator.

FWIW: Sean Hannity just commented in passing that he is has just finished recording his segments of Part 2. He plays himself, a commentator.

"Every painter does depict himself well" - Michelangelo Buonarroti, on being shown a beastly done Nativity picture in which the ox figure was the only decent one.

I didn't see the film when it came out for theater viewing. I just finally rented it.

I liked it, but not as much as Part 1. It felt like the acting was 'hurried' and not as polished as it could have been. Nonetheless, the people that put this out did a remarkable job with the screenplay. I wish they could have gotten major studio funding and shot it ala Jackson's LOTR, all parts consecutively, so as not to lose the original actors.

Speaking of which, Henry Rearden was now played by Jason Beghe, who escaped the Scientology cult.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFDl6GA1DI0

FWIW: Sean Hannity just commented in passing that he is has just finished recording his segments of Part 2. He plays himself, a commentator.

"Every painter does depict himself well" - Michelangelo Buonarroti, on being shown a beastly done Nativity picture in which the ox figure was the only decent one.

[ with Ringo Starr ]
They're gonna put me in the movies they're gonna make a big star out of me
We'll make a film about a man who's sad and lonely and all I gotta do is act naturally

Speaking of which, Henry Rearden was now played by Jason Beghe, who escaped the Scientology cult.

Not exactly a libertarian approach (seems he wants the gov to regulate Scientology.) But in any event, the way he describes Scientologists -- how they think they have evolved above regular men and that the world depends upon them to control others, you could replace the word Scientologist with liberal.

I didn't see the film when it came out for theater viewing. I just finally rented it.

I liked it, but not as much as Part 1. It felt like the acting was 'hurried' and not as polished as it could have been. Nonetheless, the people that put this out did a remarkable job with the screenplay.

I'm sort of a Atlas Shrugged movie fanboy at this point. I liked both parts and most of the actors. I liked the first D'Anconia better than the second. The two Dagny's each have their own charms. I think putting Hannity in the second sort of dates the film in a certain time frame. They could have stuck him in as another character, such as they did with Teller.

In part 2 (I don't recall now in part 1 which I haven't watched for a while) they have softened up the secondary characters, including Eddie Willers. By that I mean they've become more competent and good natured. The evil characters are still evil, but in Rand's book, the secondary characters were often corrupt souls as well.

For instance the guy Dagny meets when the train breaks down, Jeff Allen, is a tramp in the book, but a competent Taggart employee in the movie. Similarly the headquarters controller, Dave Mitchum, is an incompetent political appointee in the book who knowingly sends a train to its doom. In the movie he's just an inexperienced new employee who is pressured into risky actions but actually strives to avoid the crash.

And as a consequence of making Eddie Willers very competent, the movie story takes a bit of an illogical direction when James Taggart appoints Dave Mitchum the COO (didn't happen in the book) to replace Dagny rather than with Eddie Willers. In the movie Eddie is clearly second in command below Dagny.

After noting all that I kind of feel like a Galaxy Quest fanboy who knows that Guy Fleegman was killed off in episode 81.

I didn't see the film when it came out for theater viewing. I just finally rented it.

I liked it, but not as much as Part 1. It felt like the acting was 'hurried' and not as polished as it could have been. Nonetheless, the people that put this out did a remarkable job with the screenplay.

I'm sort of a Atlas Shrugged movie fanboy at this point. I liked both parts and most of the actors.....

.....After noting all that I kind of feel like a Galaxy Quest fanboy who knows that Guy Fleegman was killed off in episode 81.

I do agree; the Dagney-actresses had their own way of handling the character, Part 1's being a little more reserved (for lack of a better word), while Part 2's was more out-going in her outward expression of emotions.....more of an 'amused', 'happy-warrior' approach to what the plot throws at her.

The importance of the book and movie, more so given the 'continuing crisis' we are currently in, and transparently exacerbated by Barry, screams out to me. I just wish that the production had been done without the discontinuity of filming. Its THAT important. I will admit however that the inherent heroic plotline that Rand wrote, the way it was skillfully handled and adapted by the screenwriters, and portrayed by the actors in both Parts made me 'well-up' at a few points.

(FWIW: I don't think I've ever mentioned it here, or even remembered it for a loooooong while.....my girlfriend back in my college days had a female cat named Dagney; a verrrrrry strong-willed personality.)

Speaking of which, Henry Rearden was now played by Jason Beghe, who escaped the Scientology cult.

Not exactly a libertarian approach (seems he wants the gov to regulate Scientology.) But in any event, the way he describes Scientologists -- how they think they have evolved above regular men and that the world depends upon them to control others, you could replace the word Scientologist with liberal.

.... or Nazi.

Atlas III greenlighted last month. July 2014 release planned.

Not exactly a libertarian approach (seems he wants the gov to regulate Scientology.) But in any event, the way he describes Scientologists -- how they think they have evolved above regular men and that the world depends upon them to control others, you could replace the word Scientologist with liberal.

.... or Nazi.

not quite.Two groups, INs and OUTs, the IN [wrt its Organizing Idea] group sees itself as intrinsically better [all groups do], organizes its own unifying ideology, and then sees itself in an existential struggle with the OUT group, a struggle which can end only with the elimination of one opponent. Any criteria for the separation between the groups would do: religious [islamists], racial [nazis], social class [commies], etc. etc.

Teller is also in it...but does he speak?

Teller is also in it...but does he speak?

Yes he does!

Teller is also in it...but does he speak?

Yes he does!

He did a 1.5 hour podcast with Penn a few weeks back, he is a pretty fascinating man, he is currently directing Shakespear plays, utilizing a few magic tricks for the stage. Very smart guy and a good actor.

Teller is also in it...but does he speak?

Yes he does!

Not the first time - I still have my copy of Penn and Teller Get Killed.

Atlas III greenlighted last month. July 2014 release planned.

Los Angeles, CA - March 26, 2013 - Today, Atlas Productions, LLC officially announced that “Atlas Shrugged Part 3”, the third and final installment of the Atlas Shrugged movie trilogy, has been officially greenlit with principal photography to begin later this year.

http://blog.atlasshruggedmovie.com/2013 ... -into.html

Atlas III greenlighted last month. July 2014 release planned.

Los Angeles, CA - March 26, 2013 - Today, Atlas Productions, LLC officially announced that “Atlas Shrugged Part 3”, the third and final installment of the Atlas Shrugged movie trilogy, has been officially greenlit with principal photography to begin later this year.

http://blog.atlasshruggedmovie.com/2013 ... -into.html

This will arguably be the most difficult part of the trilogy to script, what with the bulk of Part III being Galt's trial and speech. A two hour film of a guy delivering a monologue in court won't cut it at the box office, so the writers have their work cut out for them to figure out a way to weave Galt's speech into the storyline without it shoving everything else asunder.

Atlas III greenlighted last month. July 2014 release planned.

Los Angeles, CA - March 26, 2013 - Today, Atlas Productions, LLC officially announced that “Atlas Shrugged Part 3”, the third and final installment of the Atlas Shrugged movie trilogy, has been officially greenlit with principal photography to begin later this year.

http://blog.atlasshruggedmovie.com/2013 ... -into.html

This will arguably be the most difficult part of the trilogy to script, what with the bulk of Part III being Galt's trial and speech. A two hour film of a guy delivering a monologue in court won't cut it at the box office, so the writers have their work cut out for them to figure out a way to weave Galt's speech into the storyline without it shoving everything else asunder.

Courtroom speeches are one thing. They can be done to great effect on film.

But IIRC Galt was never brought to trial - the long speech was a radio broadcast.

I'm recalling that the Galt speech was said in the book to have taken about three hours. In the audio book version this is proved correct, as that portion takes about three hours. Rand must have timed the vocal reading of the speech so she could include that fact in the book itself.

I think the movie Part 1 was around 90 minutes. Part 2 was around 110 minutes. Part 3 would have to run twice as long as Parts 1 and 2 just to hold the uncut speech.

Atlas III greenlighted last month. July 2014 release planned.

Los Angeles, CA - March 26, 2013 - Today, Atlas Productions, LLC officially announced that “Atlas Shrugged Part 3”, the third and final installment of the Atlas Shrugged movie trilogy, has been officially greenlit with principal photography to begin later this year.

http://blog.atlasshruggedmovie.com/2013 ... -into.html

This will arguably be the most difficult part of the trilogy to script, what with the bulk of Part III being Galt's trial and speech. A two hour film of a guy delivering a monologue in court won't cut it at the box office, so the writers have their work cut out for them to figure out a way to weave Galt's speech into the storyline without it shoving everything else asunder.

Courtroom speeches are one thing. They can be done to great effect on film.

But IIRC Galt was never brought to trial - the long speech was a radio broadcast.

ooops. You're correct. I got Rearden's trial in part II confused with Galt's radio speech in part III.

Still, the point remains, regardless of venue, a two or three hour long monologue cannot be translated to the screen easily.

I'm guessing they'll go to a Reader's Digest version of the speech, and perhaps cut away from and back to it over the course of the film. It might work well as a narration over a series of scenes related to the content of the speech .....

And you all think it's going to be finished in just three installments, huh?

I'm guessing they'll go to a Reader's Digest version of the speech, and perhaps cut away from and back to it over the course of the film. It might work well as a narration over a series of scenes related to the content of the speech .....

That's what I was thinking.

I think I mentioned on one of the other Atlas Shrugged threads that my favorite scene in Part 2 is where Dagny confronts Ken Danagger just as he is about to disappear. Here he gets to lament in a very philosophically forthright way -- but it isn't preachy because they're commiserating as comrades. Contrast that with D'anconia's money speech at the wedding which isn't nearly as comfortable -- it is inherently preachy.

I believe that AS3 should cut short the radio speech and instead put the philosophical stuff into just the sort of conversation that Dagny and Danagger had -- a discussion between friends rather than a lecture. It's just much more natural and compelling that way.